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Nathan Poage Master
Posts : 1912 Join date : 2011-10-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:36 am | |
| - KKeough wrote:
- Drink your water, brah. Are you planning on using any dandelion root? Taking some a few times a day helps me.
And if you're desperate on Wednesday morning, there's always magnesium citrate. No dandelion root, just black tea like Her Majesty intended. I hope I don't have to resort to the magnesium citrate. After three gallons of water, an Old Chicago calzone, and a pound of Italian sausage (2.5x the RDA of Na) and spaghetti squash yesterday and a liter of tea this morning I was 164, so 162 before the tea. | |
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Keosawa American-Record Holder
Posts : 3174 Join date : 2011-10-30 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:56 am | |
| You do what you have to do, and I'll look the other way. | |
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KevinAlvy Elite
Posts : 2446 Join date : 2011-10-30
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:01 pm | |
| - Nathan Poage wrote:
After three gallons of water, an Old Chicago calzone, and a pound of Italian sausage (2.5x the RDA of Na) and spaghetti squash yesterday and a liter of tea this morning I was 164, so 162 before the tea. das nice | |
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Keosawa American-Record Holder
Posts : 3174 Join date : 2011-10-30 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:12 pm | |
| Also, it sounds like Grant might be able to make it down to Grand Natties to help you.
And Rich Peters said that Grand Natties is moving from Iowa to Wisconsin after this year. | |
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Nathan Poage Master
Posts : 1912 Join date : 2011-10-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:45 pm | |
| - KKeough wrote:
- Also, it sounds like Grant might be able to make it down to Grand Natties to help you.
And Rich Peters said that Grand Natties is moving from Iowa to Wisconsin after this year. Jeez, you really pissed him off by not competing. | |
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Nathan Poage Master
Posts : 1912 Join date : 2011-10-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:47 pm | |
| 7/8
Squat Worked up to a fast 405 single with high bar and low bar doubles.
Bench Worked up to a not so fast 250 single
Ring pull ups
Notes: I got 99 problems and they're all bench press. | |
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Keosawa American-Record Holder
Posts : 3174 Join date : 2011-10-30 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:50 pm | |
| What are your openers going to be for the meet? | |
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David Petersen Class II
Posts : 378 Join date : 2013-06-25 Age : 33 Location : Iowa City
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:48 pm | |
| - Nathan Poage wrote:
Notes: I got 99 problems and they're all bench press. This seems to be the case for most young lifters I follow, as well as myself...Most of the older lifters I talk to say the bench comes with time...I'm curious what some younger lifters with more expirence than me think. Is the bench something you think a younger lifter should work on more/put more emphasis on? Or do you think it is something that comes with time? | |
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Quadfather Class I
Posts : 985 Join date : 2013-02-12 Age : 32 Location : Des Moines, IA
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:00 pm | |
| I think bench is like everything else. Time, some technique, and working at it regularly will put you in a good position | |
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KevinAlvy Elite
Posts : 2446 Join date : 2011-10-30
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:25 pm | |
| If by time you mean a decade. Phuuuuck I hate bench | |
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Keosawa American-Record Holder
Posts : 3174 Join date : 2011-10-30 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:26 pm | |
| - Allprocro wrote:
- Nathan Poage wrote:
Notes: I got 99 problems and they're all bench press. This seems to be the case for most young lifters I follow, as well as myself...Most of the older lifters I talk to say the bench comes with time...I'm curious what some younger lifters with more expirence than me think. Is the bench something you think a younger lifter should work on more/put more emphasis on? Or do you think it is something that comes with time? It just depends upon the individual. Lifters with great leverages for the bench press will excel at it early; regardless, reaching an elite level in any lift usually takes a long amount of time. Personally, I think every lift should be emphasized; there's no reason to short-change your bench press, or any other lift for that matter. Everything goes towards the total, and you can only go so far having a clear weak link. Obviously, you can build a good total without a bench as a beginning lifter, but eventually you need to develop it. | |
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Keosawa American-Record Holder
Posts : 3174 Join date : 2011-10-30 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:26 pm | |
| - KevinAlvy wrote:
- If by time you mean a decade. Phuuuuck I hate bench
Same here, but I hate the thought of being shitty at any one lift. I mean, there are only three of them. | |
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KevinAlvy Elite
Posts : 2446 Join date : 2011-10-30
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:33 pm | |
| Bench is the most respectable to suck at | |
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Keosawa American-Record Holder
Posts : 3174 Join date : 2011-10-30 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:36 pm | |
| - KevinAlvy wrote:
- Bench is the most respectable to suck at
This is true. Sub-800 multi sumo deadlifting is the most cringeworthy shit. But I think some people are just no-bench hipsters. Benching ironically (i.e. badly) because you're defining yourself against the bros doesn't make you cool. | |
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KevinAlvy Elite
Posts : 2446 Join date : 2011-10-30
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:40 pm | |
| - KKeough wrote:
- KevinAlvy wrote:
- Bench is the most respectable to suck at
This is true. Sub-800 multi sumo deadlifting is the most cringeworthy shit.
But I think some people are just no-bench hipsters. Benching ironically (i.e. badly) because you're defining yourself against the bros doesn't make you cool. Spider-Manwtfamireading.jpeg At least we have another anti sumo around though. IMO sub world class sumo is unacceptable
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babyeater Class II
Posts : 421 Join date : 2012-07-22 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:41 pm | |
| I have the worst leverages for bench of any of you. It's been rough as hell getting the lift to come together for me, and the ONLY reason it probably has is because I've drilled so much volume in it. I have days where I spend set after set with embarrassingly low weight on the bar doing high reps (paused) going for as robotic technique as possible. It is paying the hell off.
I know no one's looking at me and thinking "wow, Janis is a good bencher." I have a mediocre bench max. But for a 114-class chick who spent at least half of her short time in powerlifting hating and really SUCKING at bench, what's happening with it right now is kind of fantastic. And I got there by being diligent about form and honest about benching within a weight range and RPE range that gives me a chance to execute quality work(ie the form isn't breaking down to the point of being shitty/the reps aren't moving stupidly slow).
Bench often and focus on quality. Bench, in my opinion, just edges out squat in its dependence on technique. JUST. And the squat is technical as f*ck, so obsessing over your technique on bench is how your early years in powerlifting would be best spent. Or you can just bang out horrible-looking sets subsequently injuring yourself, regressing, etc. This shit is all about patience. | |
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KevinAlvy Elite
Posts : 2446 Join date : 2011-10-30
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:45 pm | |
| - babyeater wrote:
- Or you can just bang out horrible-looking sets subsequently injuring yourself, regressing, etc.
Anybody need tips on this, I'm a pro. Brb srsly... Good for you Janis. I think a lot of us struggle with doing what is obviously correct. I know I do | |
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Keosawa American-Record Holder
Posts : 3174 Join date : 2011-10-30 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:48 pm | |
| - KevinAlvy wrote:
At least we have another anti sumo around though. IMO sub world class sumo is unacceptable I'm not anti-sumo; just anti-shit multi sumo. Sub-800-lb. multi sumos from 275s and up is embarrassing for everyone. Oh, and the suit helps. I don't care what anyone says. The suit helps. Otherwise, there would be more than one or two multi guys pulling conventional. | |
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Keosawa American-Record Holder
Posts : 3174 Join date : 2011-10-30 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:48 pm | |
| - KevinAlvy wrote:
- babyeater wrote:
- Or you can just bang out horrible-looking sets subsequently injuring yourself, regressing, etc.
Anybody need tips on this, I'm a pro.
Brb srsly... Good for you Janis. I think a lot of us struggle with doing what is obviously correct. I know I do She has her shit together better than I do, that's for sure. | |
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babyeater Class II
Posts : 421 Join date : 2012-07-22 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:51 pm | |
| - KevinAlvy wrote:
- babyeater wrote:
- Or you can just bang out horrible-looking sets subsequently injuring yourself, regressing, etc.
Anybody need tips on this, I'm a pro.
Brb srsly... Good for you Janis. I think a lot of us struggle with doing what is obviously correct. I know I do Oh man, do you know how embarrassing it is to go in there and just do set after set with 85 lb on the bar? I mean, it's all relative and I absolutely should probably be embarrassed at my "heavy" days with 115 or something but damn, 85 is just "that chick is wasting bench space, sed the bro" territory. So you just sit there and think "some day, doing this shitty work will allow me to do volume work days with heavier weight. This is worth it." I don't know what it is with bench. I see so much dick-measuring going on with it in that gym. Dick-measuring followed by slamming the bar into bony sternums for forced reps and really bad spotting to finish off a given set. | |
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babyeater Class II
Posts : 421 Join date : 2012-07-22 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:03 pm | |
| - KKeough wrote:
Somewhere, a large man is warming up with your max. Thanks for the info bro, I had absolutely no concept of this. None. It explains so much. | |
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KevinAlvy Elite
Posts : 2446 Join date : 2011-10-30
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:04 pm | |
| - babyeater wrote:
- KKeough wrote:
Somewhere, a large man is warming up with your max. Thanks for the info bro, I had absolutely no concept of this. None. It explains so much. Are you guise sitting right next to each other | |
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babyeater Class II
Posts : 421 Join date : 2012-07-22 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:06 pm | |
| - KevinAlvy wrote:
- babyeater wrote:
- KKeough wrote:
Somewhere, a large man is warming up with your max. Thanks for the info bro, I had absolutely no concept of this. None. It explains so much. Are you guise sitting right next to each other Nah, I'm letting him do his post-workout haze thing in peace. For now. Dude[Kyle], you need to freaking eat. | |
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Keosawa American-Record Holder
Posts : 3174 Join date : 2011-10-30 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:11 pm | |
| - babyeater wrote:
- KevinAlvy wrote:
- babyeater wrote:
- KKeough wrote:
Somewhere, a large man is warming up with your max. Thanks for the info bro, I had absolutely no concept of this. None. It explains so much. Are you guise sitting right next to each other Nah, I'm letting him do his post-workout haze thing in peace. For now. Dude[Kyle], you need to freaking eat. Don't tell me how to live my life. | |
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David Petersen Class II
Posts : 378 Join date : 2013-06-25 Age : 33 Location : Iowa City
| Subject: Re: Nathan Poage's Log Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:25 pm | |
| 2nd about sumo comment...It seems like more guys can pull (conv) over 900 than guys who can pull over 900 (sumo)..but an insane amount of multi sumo guys are low to mid 800 pullers....Maybe I am wrong, but that's just how it seems.... | |
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