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PostSubject: Re: KevinAlvy's Training Log   KevinAlvy's Training Log - Page 16 Icon_minitimeSun Dec 16, 2012 11:03 am

" But I also think a lot of your benching injuries have come from using bands"

Agreed, 100%. Banded benching was awful on me. Reverse-band benching actually helped, for a short while, but I trained with too high an intensity while using it. I would never advocate for the universal application of bands or anything else; it's all contingent upon the lifter and the situation, and bands and my bench don't play nice together.

Also, to correct a misconception, I tend to get labeled as using a "Westside" system, but my training at this point looks nothing like Westside. And if you look at my three lifts, I train them completely differently. I mean, I'm now running six-week training blocks on paused benching in which I'm starting my block working with ~70% for sets of 8. My squat has always been a 5/3/1 style wave with a now-retired speed day thrown in. The only thing I continue to train similar to Westside is my deadlift, but even then, I'll throw in rep-max waves pretty regularly.

Regarding the box, recently I came to the realization why reverse-band box squats have helped my training. I asked Dan Green a question on youtube about squat volume training, and he made the very good point that squat volume can be handled best if you're using a style that doesn't fatigue the lumbar. Lumbar fatigue has ALWAYS been an issue for me; now, at least half of my squatting comes with either a reverse band, a low box, or both, and I realize that these, combined, allow me to squat with a more vertical torso and utilize muscle-groups in my PC that aren't being utilized as much in my regular squat. Because I have an incredibly narrow stance, I'm squatting with a hunched over style, and no matter who you are, there's only so much of that that you can handle.

Now, could I have accomplished this by high-bar squatting, front squatting, or readjusting my technique? Very likely so, but this was the path of least resistance for me, and it resulted in a big gain.

Point is, there are many ways to skin a cat; I just offered one solution among many to Nate. The important thing is just to find something that works, regardless of who and where it comes from.
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PostSubject: Re: KevinAlvy's Training Log   KevinAlvy's Training Log - Page 16 Icon_minitimeSun Dec 16, 2012 4:48 pm

@Kyle - Internasting thanks for that. Lol I know nobody actually does "westside" anyways, I am just commenting on the principles of conjugate method, contrast, and similar exercise selection

Tng Bench
Warmups
317x3 @8
327x3 @9
337x3 @9.5
337x3 @9.5
327x3 @9


Narrow Incline
Warmups
185x10
205x10
185x10


Delt Raises and Neck
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PostSubject: Re: KevinAlvy's Training Log   KevinAlvy's Training Log - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 17, 2012 11:44 am

Should I email my bio to you? Or do I go somewhere specific to post it?
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PostSubject: Re: KevinAlvy's Training Log   KevinAlvy's Training Log - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 17, 2012 11:49 am

Just kidding, I found it. Sometimes I dont know how I made it into grad school.
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agleckler wrote:
Just kidding, I found it. Sometimes I dont know how I made it into grad school.

That feel. I know it.
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lol jk, I'm really smart.
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lol @ liberal arts majors
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PostSubject: Re: KevinAlvy's Training Log   KevinAlvy's Training Log - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 17, 2012 3:47 pm

Comp Squat
Warmups
520x3 @9


Comp Deadlift
Warmups
545x3 @9


Notes: Kept the oly shoes on for squat today and they felt okay. As long as they feel at least okay I want to give them another shot
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Hammer Row
Warmups
2x20


Vertical Pulldown
Warmups
2x20


Neck
Warmups
2x20


Facepulls
Warmups
2x20


DB Circles and Curls
2x20


Notes: Just the stuff I skipped yesterday
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High Bar Squat
Warmups
455x6 @8


Notes: Going to start counting prs on these
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Narrow Incline
Warmups
275x5 @9


Hammer Pulldown
Warmups
5x10 2pps


Low Row
Warmups
20 2pps


Dips
3x20


Front Raises
45 2x20


Machine Flyes
3x15


Decline Abs
2x


Circle Off
Beat george, my endurance is better
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PostSubject: Re: KevinAlvy's Training Log   KevinAlvy's Training Log - Page 16 Icon_minitimeThu Dec 20, 2012 6:27 pm

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Circle Off
Beat george, my endurance is better

First off, this just sounds wrong. Second of all, I destroyed you in the circle off, my grip exceeds yours with terrifying efficiency.
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GFou wrote:
First off, this just sounds wrong. Second of all, I destroyed you in the circle off, my grip exceeds yours with terrifying efficiency.

it was hard, but I won
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PostSubject: Re: KevinAlvy's Training Log   KevinAlvy's Training Log - Page 16 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 22, 2012 4:15 pm

Comp Squat
Warmups
495x6 @8


Tng Bench
Warmups
340x4 @9.5


Deadlift
Warmups
535x3 lost grip here...
535x5 w/ straps @9


Notes: Deadlift knurling was basically nonexistent. I felt my hook slipping so I went to over under, then I totally lost it. Using straps is cheating though so I won't count it as a pr
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Notes: Deadlift knurling was basically nonexistent. I felt my hook slipping so I went to over under, then I totally lost it. Using straps is cheating though so I won't count it as a pr

wow...you are letting the terrorists win. You better drink some PBR to make up for it
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GFou wrote:

wow...you are letting the terrorists win. You better drink some PBR to make up for it

brb pbring


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Hammer High Row
Warmups
3x20


Low Row
Warmups
3x20


Seated Shrugs
Warmups
3x20


Superset
Neck 3x20
Bent Over Raises 3x20


Cable curls
4x10


Decline partial situps
2x10
Twists to failure
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Narrow Flat Bench
Warmups
311x5 @9


Narrow Tng Incline
Warmups
207 3x10 @8


Dips
30
24
16
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PostSubject: Re: KevinAlvy's Training Log   KevinAlvy's Training Log - Page 16 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 25, 2012 1:17 am

Where are those weird numbers coming from? You'd better not be using kilo plates and bars if you value your angus.
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Nathan Poage wrote:
Where are those weird numbers coming from? You'd better not be using kilo plates and bars if you value your angus.

He's doing kilo bodyweight dips, it seems.
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Nathan Poage wrote:
Where are those weird numbers coming from? You'd better not be using kilo plates and bars if you value your angus.
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our poverty gym back home has 41 lb bars
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PostSubject: Re: KevinAlvy's Training Log   KevinAlvy's Training Log - Page 16 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 26, 2012 12:11 am

Comp Squat
Warmups
497x8


Comp Dead
Warmups
561x2


Deadlift Stance Leg Press
Warmups
7 pps x 20





Notes: Squat consistency is coming back


Nathan Poage wrote:
Where are those weird numbers coming from? You'd better not be using kilo plates and bars if you value your angus.

Gotta practice with the same weights you compete in

not srs

KKeough wrote:
He's doing kilo bodyweight dips, it seems.

I see what you did dere

GFou wrote:
our poverty gym back home has 41 lb bars

And 47 lb ones
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High Row
Warmups
2.5 pps x 15


Chest Supported Row
Warmups
3 pps x 15


Seated Shrugs
Warmups
3x40 2 pps


Neck Machine
Warmups
3x20


Preacher Curls
3x10


Notes: Saw a PT for a bit today. After some poking, stretches, and talking about my lifting history he said I was at a very high risk for a pec tear. This wasn't surprising to me, but I think I will give it some more attention. I was planning on doing a "bench on" during this upcoming block but I'll probably work on rehabbing it instead
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I've lied to myself for years regarding my bench press technique and my shoulder. Don't make the same mistake as my stupid self: I still believe that making your bench press technique more pec-friendly will be beneficial in the long run for you.

Otherwise, what do you think you'll be doing for rehab?
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PostSubject: Re: KevinAlvy's Training Log   KevinAlvy's Training Log - Page 16 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 26, 2012 6:09 pm

On a lighter note, I thought the squats you did recently looked really good.
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